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i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for them. >> they're becoming the party of rich, white, older men, is what it seems to me. you can't think of any other section of american community that right now is thinking the republican party's for me. this isn't be a good place for them to find themselves. >> i think that's why the politics of this are, you know, make it quite possible to go over the cliff. i think the democrats see precisely that. if we go over the cliff, the republicans get blamed. so, there is not exactly an incentive to go over. i think the republicans, what they worr
i think divided government is very difficult. and there's some principles that speaker boehner is fighting for, with which i actually agree. but i think politically, the risk here for the gop, is they've become the party of rich people. and they give up the middle-class to the democrats. and i think you saw some of that in the presidential election. i don't think that's their intent. i think their tax reform intent is quite sound. but the way this is playing out, i think that's a big risk for...
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govern governor mitt romney is platting his next move. he's considering a return to business maybe something involving charity or the mormon church. he's even thinking about writing a book. one thing he's not interested in ackorcording to the post-is helg the republican party rebuild its brand. the governor is in semiseclusion. there's images of him pumping his own gas. some saying he looks more relaxed. there was the public lunch at the white house with the president. there's the image of him pumping his own gas. how does this compare to the revelation that his wife had thanksgiving dinner from boston market. very american of them nonetheless sources say he's bored in southern california, the post writing devours news from 2,600 miles away in washington about the fiscal cliff negotiations shaking his head about what if. what is the future for mitt romney within the republican party, if any? >> well it doesn't appear that there's going to be a whole lot of one by his own choice. my colleague did an exhaustive look at what he's been doing.
govern governor mitt romney is platting his next move. he's considering a return to business maybe something involving charity or the mormon church. he's even thinking about writing a book. one thing he's not interested in ackorcording to the post-is helg the republican party rebuild its brand. the governor is in semiseclusion. there's images of him pumping his own gas. some saying he looks more relaxed. there was the public lunch at the white house with the president. there's the image of him...
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that is something that government can do. they can really produce benefits in terms of the additional uneconomic. >> once you get to the fiscal cliff there is a clear innovation agenda. and the conditions we will have as a result of the fiscal cliffs did get out that. the first one will be immigration. we agreed and a lot of people say how are we going to compete with china and we can have the entire world at our disposal. under which the best people in the world can come to the u.s. and start businesses. >> then we have to focus on a special in the corporate tax reform to get the system which is simpler and promotes efficiency and these are for american businesses. then we have to and that will -- efficiency will be enormous. the next is an infrastructure investment to be made. in the context of the budget deal we are getting where we will spend less going forward. we have to think about what our values are and the most important things we can spend money are on infrastructure to make investments in the future rather than ha
that is something that government can do. they can really produce benefits in terms of the additional uneconomic. >> once you get to the fiscal cliff there is a clear innovation agenda. and the conditions we will have as a result of the fiscal cliffs did get out that. the first one will be immigration. we agreed and a lot of people say how are we going to compete with china and we can have the entire world at our disposal. under which the best people in the world can come to the u.s. and...
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there are reports of the government preparing chemical weapons. the rebels securing the airport and more than 40,000 people are dead. now, some high-profile senators are saying we may have passed the point of no return. that is our focus this morning. when is enough enough? yesterday i asked that question to a witness of some of the worst humanitarian crises in generations. cnn chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. she's also global affairs anchor for abc news. christiane, thank you for joining us. i want to play a famous clip of you then speaking to president bill clinton about the bosnian war which, at that point, was going into its third year and claimed tens of thousands of lives. >> as leader of the free world, as leader of the only superpower, why has it taken you, the united states, so long to articulate a policy on bosnia? why in the absense of a policy have you allowed the u.s. and the west be hostage to those who have a clear fallacy the bosnian serves and do you not think that the constant flip-flops of your administrat
there are reports of the government preparing chemical weapons. the rebels securing the airport and more than 40,000 people are dead. now, some high-profile senators are saying we may have passed the point of no return. that is our focus this morning. when is enough enough? yesterday i asked that question to a witness of some of the worst humanitarian crises in generations. cnn chief international correspondent christiane amanpour. she's also global affairs anchor for abc news. christiane,...
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a cut in government spending, a squeeze on medicare and medicaid. anything else? and finally hillary, clintons, both of them, global figures abroad, political superstars at home. to become in the four years, does she just have to wait? would anyone challenge her for the prize? could a hot new republican give her trouble, or cause her not to run? i'm chris matthews, welcome to the show. with us today, john harris, kelly o'donnell, michelle caruso-cabrera and david ignatius with "the washington post." first up, will president obama convince republicans to give him a compromise that's big enough, sweeping enough to end this month on a high note? to cap off his election win and get a clean start on his second term. a victory for the president would look like this -- get that top income tax rate up. make minimal concessions on entitlement cuts and get it done before the end of this month, avoid that cliff. this week the president said talk on a partial deal on taxes alone will not cut it with him. >> there have been reports that perhaps the republicans go ahead and let
a cut in government spending, a squeeze on medicare and medicaid. anything else? and finally hillary, clintons, both of them, global figures abroad, political superstars at home. to become in the four years, does she just have to wait? would anyone challenge her for the prize? could a hot new republican give her trouble, or cause her not to run? i'm chris matthews, welcome to the show. with us today, john harris, kelly o'donnell, michelle caruso-cabrera and david ignatius with "the...
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these considerations as well as they share revulsion at the thought of tying up two branches of government for months and diverting millions of taxpayer dollars to a trial the public would quickly unmasked as a political and motivated ploy prompted house leaders to simply allow americans to assess his personal indiscretions for themselves. this noble gesture restraint continues to inform the conduct of republicans to the state. >> on that note of like to read the entry for homosexuality >> on that note. sexual attraction between politically conservative or evangelical white males. some sexuality is characterized by wearing navy blue or gray suits with red ties, frequent church attendance, and public denunciation of other homosexuals. many occupy positions of authority and it can beat -- in can be found working as republican school board members, republican activists, a christian men's group leaders and republican legislators. prominent homosexuals include roy aspirin and larry craig. ted haggard. >> prominent. >> we will do a couple more. >> donald trump. >> well, he might be in the book.
these considerations as well as they share revulsion at the thought of tying up two branches of government for months and diverting millions of taxpayer dollars to a trial the public would quickly unmasked as a political and motivated ploy prompted house leaders to simply allow americans to assess his personal indiscretions for themselves. this noble gesture restraint continues to inform the conduct of republicans to the state. >> on that note of like to read the entry for homosexuality...
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they intended it to starve the government, which is a constitutional government. that makes me very angry. the other point i have to make is that i'm one of the long- term unemployed. right now, all of these discussions are noise. the root cause problem is a lack of jobs and offshore in that has gone unchecked since 2000. if i do not have a job, i cannot contribute to my country. if i do not have a job, i cannot pursue life, liberty, and have it is. i cannot raise my child or pay for my house her i cannot do anything because there is no revenue coming in. all i hear are the republicans wining about the upper 2% not having their golf money. host: laura calling in from austin, texas. earlier we talked but the bush tax cuts and whether they were indeed intended to be temporary or not. the loopholes, are they intended to be temporary? are they here to stay? guest: they were intended to be permanent. you cannot underestimate how hard it would be to cut those. this is why republicans are reluctant to propose this was a big changes. you need to get that money from the hi
they intended it to starve the government, which is a constitutional government. that makes me very angry. the other point i have to make is that i'm one of the long- term unemployed. right now, all of these discussions are noise. the root cause problem is a lack of jobs and offshore in that has gone unchecked since 2000. if i do not have a job, i cannot contribute to my country. if i do not have a job, i cannot pursue life, liberty, and have it is. i cannot raise my child or pay for my house...
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months of civil unrest and the deas of at least 40,000 murdered civilians at the hands of their own government. united states and nato agreeing to deploy patriot weapons and to thwart an aso-called by assad. the missile systems to be positioned near the syria. his staff denies that and estimates if they were deploy troops, it requires 75,000 of the troops in a full ground invasionn order seize the chemical weapon stockpile. fox news confirming they were not ordered to draft the consideration of such a mission. secretary of state clinton is nonetheless talking very tough calling for assad to step down as the obama administration has done for the past 15 months, b refusing, still, to detail which consequences those would be. >> we will explore with like-minded countries what more we can do to bring the conflict to an end, but that will require the assad regime making the decision to participate in a political transition, ending the violence against its own people, and we hope thathey do so because we believe, as you know, that their fall is inevitable, but it's a question of how many people will
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what is the federal government going to do. the only thing they've said is they're reviewing the laws, they're going to sit back and see how they are implemented and see where they can go from there. they've reminded both states pot is still illegal. i think the concern is when you create these havens of legal pot in colorado and here in washington state and have a black market around them, what's going on the effect? are these going to be magnets for illegal pot? are you going to have problems on the border a? it's not clear. they're waiting and seeing how this goes. >> thanks very much to miguel. miguel's talking about marijuana and it got us thinking about the war on drugs. it's cost this country more than a trillion dollars since it was launched by president nixon as the war on drugs 40 years aerks but the effort is being dubbed a failure and waste of money. here's former president bill clinton. >> well, obviously, if the expected results that we eliminate serious drug use in america and eliminate the narco trafficking netw
what is the federal government going to do. the only thing they've said is they're reviewing the laws, they're going to sit back and see how they are implemented and see where they can go from there. they've reminded both states pot is still illegal. i think the concern is when you create these havens of legal pot in colorado and here in washington state and have a black market around them, what's going on the effect? are these going to be magnets for illegal pot? are you going to have problems...
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we heard these rumblings out of the administration and the foreign policy apparatus of this government for 15 months saying assad must go. doing absolutely nothing. 40,000 people murdered, and then, unbelievably, the secretary of state today saying that this, you know, the point of which we reach some sort of resolution depends on how many people the assad regimements to kill. are you kidding me? >> they don't know what to do. on this, lou, i have to defend -he administration. it's hard to know what to do in a situation which is now as chaotic as syria. i mean, look -- lou: should we only assign foreign policy masters in the state department and white house then easy, simple tasks they are resolve? >> no, i just think there's some foreign policy challenges more complex than others, and this is a hard one. we armed the libyans and know some of those weapons went to the very people blowing up american embassies and targets. lou: radicals, extremists, terrorists. the administration will not use that term. >> they misread it thinking the russians would help ease assad out of power. there's
we heard these rumblings out of the administration and the foreign policy apparatus of this government for 15 months saying assad must go. doing absolutely nothing. 40,000 people murdered, and then, unbelievably, the secretary of state today saying that this, you know, the point of which we reach some sort of resolution depends on how many people the assad regimements to kill. are you kidding me? >> they don't know what to do. on this, lou, i have to defend -he administration. it's hard...
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that's why every government, the americans, the germans, our own government have rules. you do not let civilians go down there in winter because if something happens it will be an embarrassment to the government. >> after four years he got permission, and a ship is on its way. he'll join it in south africa, and there's one thing he's looking forward to before he sets off and that is a long, hot, soapy bath. it will be his last for six months. erin. >> now the fifth story. jersey shore meets fiscal cliff. chris christie was at the white house and on capitol hill today asking for more federal funding for the storm ravaged state. a republican is asking for more money from washington, as republicans slam the president for additional spending is, well, perhaps problematic. democratic senator chuck schumer whose own home state of new york was hard-hit pointed out the irony of christie's request today saying it doesn't come at an opportune time of the fiscal cliff, both the talks and the fact we're short on money. will it hurt his party or not? roland martin joins me. good to s
that's why every government, the americans, the germans, our own government have rules. you do not let civilians go down there in winter because if something happens it will be an embarrassment to the government. >> after four years he got permission, and a ship is on its way. he'll join it in south africa, and there's one thing he's looking forward to before he sets off and that is a long, hot, soapy bath. it will be his last for six months. erin. >> now the fifth story. jersey...
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it just says that if they do the federal government won't recognize them. the prop 8 case potentially raises a much more fundamental issue whether a state can deny same-sex marriage. the court could decide it on much more narrow grounds. >> pete, neither case could find a path to legalize gay marriage on a federal level? >> reporter: you know, that's not clear. if they take the proposition 8 case from california, when the trial judge decided the case, he said as a matter of the federal constitution, a state cannot deny same sex couples the rate to get married. now when the appeals court ruled, it did so on a much more narrow only grounds. there is always the possibility they could get to the bedrock issue. >> there is a way. >> reporter: right, there is a path. >> pete williams at the supreme court, thank you, pete. >> reporter: you bet. >>> our gaggle will be here next to kick off the week. but first the white house soup of the day. kind of a low key day, tomato basil. nothing too spicy. the slow start it to the fiscal talks here in the first full week of
it just says that if they do the federal government won't recognize them. the prop 8 case potentially raises a much more fundamental issue whether a state can deny same-sex marriage. the court could decide it on much more narrow grounds. >> pete, neither case could find a path to legalize gay marriage on a federal level? >> reporter: you know, that's not clear. if they take the proposition 8 case from california, when the trial judge decided the case, he said as a matter of the...
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warn against any attempt to overthrow his government. mohammed morsi is calling for a national dialogue with the opposition this weekend. he also accused some opposition members working with mubarak regime. potential for more death in syria on a larger scale is growing tonight. chief washington correspondent james rosen has disturbing news about weapons of mass destructions. >> a regime helicopter calltured in the skies above syria in the unverified amateur video unloadss something. likely a defensive flare. but the moment epitomizes the threat of nuclear weapons that the syrian people now live. rebel forces are now taking the fight directly to the assad regime inside the capital damascus with a deadly explosion near the arab red crescent building and pitch battles for key airfields outside the city. >> it is clear regime forces are being grounded down and they are losing. >> president bashar assad already killed estimated 40,000 people. president obama top aids will fear the fighting take on gruesome character. >> we remained very conce
warn against any attempt to overthrow his government. mohammed morsi is calling for a national dialogue with the opposition this weekend. he also accused some opposition members working with mubarak regime. potential for more death in syria on a larger scale is growing tonight. chief washington correspondent james rosen has disturbing news about weapons of mass destructions. >> a regime helicopter calltured in the skies above syria in the unverified amateur video unloadss something....
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because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occupied the oval office in 1962. he spoke of the benefits of cutting taxes. president obama, i hope you're watching this. >> this can be the most important step we could take to prevent another recession. that is the right time to make tax cuts both for your family budget and the national budget. resulting from a permanent basic reform and reduction in our rate structure, a creative tax cut creating more jobs and income and eventually more revenue. it will include an across the the board top to bottom cut in both corporate and personal income taxes. the billions of dollars this bill will place in the hands of the consumer, and our businessmen, will have both immediate and permanent benefits to our economy. every dollar released from taxation that is spent or invested will help create a new job and a new salary and these new jobs and new salaries can create other jobs and other salaries. >> right. that is the message that president ob
because government is not the answer. government is the problem. there was that other iconic democrat, the one that occupied the oval office in 1962. he spoke of the benefits of cutting taxes. president obama, i hope you're watching this. >> this can be the most important step we could take to prevent another recession. that is the right time to make tax cuts both for your family budget and the national budget. resulting from a permanent basic reform and reduction in our rate structure, a...
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when the private sector, when businesses and consumers are not spending, what we need is for government to be the spender of last resort. we don't want to go into major spending cuts. that's the austerity trap that europe has found itself in, and it would be crazy for us to go in that direction. >> before we go, very quickly, yes or no. do we have a deal by the end of the year? >> yes. >> and what about you, doug? >> marginally, yes. 60/40 in favor of a deal but they've got to get moving. >> we'll have to see if it's a real deal or another kick of the can down the road or some other interim thing. thanks for being here. >>> "outfront" next, the u.s. military draws up new plans for a potential strike against syria as we learn more about that country's stockpile of chemical weapons. >>> plus -- the u.s. supreme court agrees to take on the issue of gay marriage. and is that a signal, is that a signal that for republicans, it may be time to reconsider its view on this? >>> and a nurse duped by a prank call leaking information about the duchess of cambridge is found dead. all of that coming
when the private sector, when businesses and consumers are not spending, what we need is for government to be the spender of last resort. we don't want to go into major spending cuts. that's the austerity trap that europe has found itself in, and it would be crazy for us to go in that direction. >> before we go, very quickly, yes or no. do we have a deal by the end of the year? >> yes. >> and what about you, doug? >> marginally, yes. 60/40 in favor of a deal but they've...
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it wasn't set up to have the federal government step in and do this. they were trying to give the states more control. an open question is, if these governors stay recalcitrant, are they essentially going to set the system up to fail and they get what they want. >> that seems to be whether -- >> setting up exchanges sort of dismantle obama care or difficult to access it or ejecting the expansion, there has to be some -- the question is how much they're held accountable by their constits wents. >> this goes to a cynicism grover referred to in his interview with you where he said well, people think that if we raise taxes on the wealthy, eventually we'll result in higher taxes for them. and part of the idea here is, people think if we can challenge this form of health care, distributed as ezra reported with very, very good mar gyps for these states -- margins from these states from the fed we can undermine the system. it's a deeply cynical view of how government benefits work and share the sacrifice. it can work in the short term because i don't know that
it wasn't set up to have the federal government step in and do this. they were trying to give the states more control. an open question is, if these governors stay recalcitrant, are they essentially going to set the system up to fail and they get what they want. >> that seems to be whether -- >> setting up exchanges sort of dismantle obama care or difficult to access it or ejecting the expansion, there has to be some -- the question is how much they're held accountable by their...
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at the core this is about asking americans to pay more americans to the federal government. this is just -- it's -- bill clinton called it kabuki theater. it's a way for republicans not to be ashamed and walk back the ideological core they've run on for the past few years. >> if president obama is able to come out and say i'm going to support getting rid of tax ducks for charitable organizations, hospitals, universities, religious organizations, i want to get rid of that tax deduction f he puts his finger -- his hand anywhere near that decision, he's going to be a loony toon every hospital, church, philanthropic in the united states, from the rockefeller down to the littlest catholic charity will fight that. they need those tax cuts to survive. it's a loony toon idea. i'm sorry. a little joke there. let me ask you this. let's take a look at president's last comment of the day. this is his response to gop's what i consider a face-saving proposal. here's the president. >> if congress in any way suggests they're going to tie votes to debt ceiling votes and take us to the brink
at the core this is about asking americans to pay more americans to the federal government. this is just -- it's -- bill clinton called it kabuki theater. it's a way for republicans not to be ashamed and walk back the ideological core they've run on for the past few years. >> if president obama is able to come out and say i'm going to support getting rid of tax ducks for charitable organizations, hospitals, universities, religious organizations, i want to get rid of that tax deduction f...
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the democratic party is the government party and the governing party. if the republicans want to play british parliamentary politics and vote as a unit against anything good, that's a screw up. >> look at it from the president's point of view. he ran on this for the last two years and he's -- >> shove it down their throat before christmas. >> we have two problems. one, we look ungovernable. i'm with you on that, chris. we look like we have a party that will not allow the president to assume the governing authority he earned with an election. on the other hand, i think the world markets would -- have priced in, we disagree on that -- we can get away with -- the deal will eventually get done. exactly. that's the exact point. i think the markets believe we will eventually do the deal. it's just whether we do it before or after january 3rd. >> when you pay your bills on time, you're impressive. when you pay them late, you're not. anyway, thank you. >>> coming up, maybe grover is not over. there's a great phrase. for a couple weeks republicans could be seen
the democratic party is the government party and the governing party. if the republicans want to play british parliamentary politics and vote as a unit against anything good, that's a screw up. >> look at it from the president's point of view. he ran on this for the last two years and he's -- >> shove it down their throat before christmas. >> we have two problems. one, we look ungovernable. i'm with you on that, chris. we look like we have a party that will not allow the...
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it's time to govern. the election is over. >> he is a phone call away and you know it. >> he is a phone call away? we will come right down to him. we sent a plan to him and gave him three weeks to respond. he has not sundresponded to our current one. you cannot negotiate with yourself. >> this is the part of the stalemate that people are so uncomfortable with, even if there's more action behind the scenes. congressman, you're a californian. the supreme court is going to take up the issue of same-sex marriage with the prop eight ban in your state as well as the defense of marriage act on the federal level. do you think the days of same-sex marriage being not recognized, unrecognized as a civil right, are coming to an end? >> i think the supreme court will make the decision. prior to this election, every vote has only been it's only made it through by a legislator, not the vote of the people. in california, the people voted it down. we'll see from the supreme court sz. >> how do you see it? >> marriage equa
it's time to govern. the election is over. >> he is a phone call away and you know it. >> he is a phone call away? we will come right down to him. we sent a plan to him and gave him three weeks to respond. he has not sundresponded to our current one. you cannot negotiate with yourself. >> this is the part of the stalemate that people are so uncomfortable with, even if there's more action behind the scenes. congressman, you're a californian. the supreme court is going to take...
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>> in an ideal world for what he views as the role in government and his second term in legacy building, i think he wanted a grand bargain -- >> i think he does, too, to he can move on to the progressive stuff he wants to do. >> second terms don't last four years. >> right, right. >> no second term in the modern era has lasted four years. >> i know. >> it ends somewhere before two years. >> then you move into foreign policy. >> very quickly, chuck is right. if they get the tax rate increase on the wealthy, they declare victory and move on. we can argue debate that -- >> you're both educating me tonight. it's about taxes. the president can win this one before christmas. thank you chuck todd and chris cillizza. >>> up next, the story no one is talking about at notre dame. some people are charging cover-up. this is going to be a hot one and not very pleasant for me. this is "hardball," the place for politics. [ man ] ring ring... progresso this reduced sodium soup says it may help lower cholesterol, how does it work? you just have to eat it as part of your heart healthy diet. step 1. eat t
>> in an ideal world for what he views as the role in government and his second term in legacy building, i think he wanted a grand bargain -- >> i think he does, too, to he can move on to the progressive stuff he wants to do. >> second terms don't last four years. >> right, right. >> no second term in the modern era has lasted four years. >> i know. >> it ends somewhere before two years. >> then you move into foreign policy. >> very quickly,...
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third, the government as decided -- has decided, third, the government has decided with the agreement of the bank of england to transfer excess cash held in the asset purchase facility to the exchequer. this is sensible cash management, this it is in line h the approach of the bank of japan and the u.s. federal reserve. i welcome the verdict that this is more transparent than the previous approach. i want to make sure its impact on the figures is also completely transparent, so we have forecast the public balances with and without the impact of the apf decision. of mr. speaker, when we came to office, the deficit stood at 11.2%, the highest in our peacetime history. it was forecast to be the largest of any major economy 2349 world. in the last two years, the deficit has fallen by a quarter. today's figures show that with or without the apf coupons, the deficit is forecast to fall this year as well. and cash borrowing is forecast to fall too. last year the deficit was 7.9%. this year with the apf coupons it is forecast to be 6.9%, but that excludes the aspect of the royal mail pension
third, the government as decided -- has decided, third, the government has decided with the agreement of the bank of england to transfer excess cash held in the asset purchase facility to the exchequer. this is sensible cash management, this it is in line h the approach of the bank of japan and the u.s. federal reserve. i welcome the verdict that this is more transparent than the previous approach. i want to make sure its impact on the figures is also completely transparent, so we have forecast...
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here's the question right now, govern governor. it seems that's a face saver because they say taxes deferred or delayed are taxes avoided. if they say we'll get to defending the rich later. we'll let their taxes go up in january. it seems that's a face-saver even if they say we'll get to it later. >> well, i think what happens, chris, though is think about the issue of leverage -- by the way, no oneç is thinking about what right for the country. let's think about the issue of political leverage. >> oh, you and i are. >> that's right. and alex, too. >> what about me? >> and alex. >> i said you too, alex. president obama has all the leverage because he knows if it goes over the fiscal cliff, tax cuts expires and he'll never let the top 2% get that tax cut reinstated. if they do what you suggested, vote the tax cut, continue it for the 98%, then the leverage switches to them come the time of the debt limit. they might be able to make a deal where they save some of it so it doesn't go up to 39%. maybe goes up to 37.5%. maybe they do
here's the question right now, govern governor. it seems that's a face saver because they say taxes deferred or delayed are taxes avoided. if they say we'll get to defending the rich later. we'll let their taxes go up in january. it seems that's a face-saver even if they say we'll get to it later. >> well, i think what happens, chris, though is think about the issue of leverage -- by the way, no oneç is thinking about what right for the country. let's think about the issue of political...
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the government says drugs are illegal, drugs everywhere, just because the government is going to say now what we're going to limit guns, why do people think that's not going to have the same results? >> we have an extraordinary run-up in the sale of guns this year and especially that black friday record which was stunning. thank you very much indeed. and how is this for economic controversy? baby tourism in california. charging residents in china to stay until their baby is born. and hot topic, we're talking about it and this will be new at ten that's next. ♪ stuart: new at 10:00 o'clock. controversy at a whole. mothers are willing to spend thousands of dollars to have their babies here in america. we will talk to the judge about this in just a couple of minutes. the very big story today is this. you have no idea what taxes you will be paying and 2013. if the white house has its way, it will be all taxes, all the time. the democrats are holding the line on big tax increases. we are talking about that right from the start on this monday morning. it is a go nowhere monday. there is l
the government says drugs are illegal, drugs everywhere, just because the government is going to say now what we're going to limit guns, why do people think that's not going to have the same results? >> we have an extraordinary run-up in the sale of guns this year and especially that black friday record which was stunning. thank you very much indeed. and how is this for economic controversy? baby tourism in california. charging residents in china to stay until their baby is born. and hot...
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we're talking about a section of the community that's addicted to the government. so one question is what do we do about the welfare state. another question is whether we shut our borders and allow for some type of comprehensive plan to allow for people to come in here and live free. as long as we have welfare, larry you're not going to be able to address the immigration problem and say oh, this will be fine for now. >> i understand. to be honest, i agree with you but i think most of them come here to work. i believe that in my heart and i think the statistics tend to show that. >> two between rations ago, larry. two generations ago, not now. >> star u-can't give up otherwise you'll never elect another republican. the same thing will be true with asians. they people come network. they have a good entrepreneurial background. they are church going people. the point is that community going to pay any minds to the gop if they still believe republicans will deport them, throw them back over the border. don't let the kids go to local schools if the parents came illegally
we're talking about a section of the community that's addicted to the government. so one question is what do we do about the welfare state. another question is whether we shut our borders and allow for some type of comprehensive plan to allow for people to come in here and live free. as long as we have welfare, larry you're not going to be able to address the immigration problem and say oh, this will be fine for now. >> i understand. to be honest, i agree with you but i think most of them...